Separating fact from fiction continues to be a struggle. Rumors are abound. As with any homicide case with such notoriety, we seek knowledge. How was this guy right under our noses the entire time? Weren’t there any signs??
Richard Allen is exactly what you expect from a serial killer. Outwardly, he’s your average guy. Average looking, polite, reserved, married with children, long term employment, no criminal record. If I had a dollar for every serial killer that was a cookie cutter of the average citizen!
Then the cracks begin to form. Under that reserved demeanor is a monster. A time bomb. Someone who is simmering under the surface.
Richard Allen has worked at the local Delphi CVS for several years. According to local sources, Libby’s Aunt, Tara German, was waited on by Richard Allen when she needed to process photos for Libby’s funeral. Imagine, the very man who so brutally murdered your niece is the same man standing before you telling you that he will process your photos for free!
The CVS is allegedly the only pharmacy around for miles. It’s right there on Main Street. Sources state that nearly everyone involved in the investigation from law enforcement to family regularly visited that CVS. The sketch of the Delphi homicide suspect hung on the wall right next to Allen’s workspace. There he was, likely standing side-by-side to the sketch for the world to see. But they didn’t see.
It’s alleged that investigators came by the CVS to inquire about the Delphi murder weapon. Investigators are said to have stopped by the store to see if they sold a specific type of hook knife. Did Allen handle the inquiry? Did he obtain the murder weapon at CVS? We can only speculate.
It paints a picture. Investigators standing at the front counter, speaking to the killer about the weapon used at the crime scene, right next to the suspect sketch. Who can we blame? Allen is the average guy. You don’t expect the Delphi killer to be the guy standing behind the counter at CVS. That’s the typical ‘hiding in plain sight’ scenario.
Then the underbelly of the monster begins to emerge. A former CVS coworker took to Reddit to discuss working with Allen for eight month post-homicide. While the coworker stated that Allen was always polite and easy to work with, he also said that it was common knowledge around CVS that Allen was a recovered alcoholic and had been institutionalized in the past. The coworker never asked why Allen was institutionalized and never considered he may be related to the homicide. Another missed opportunity by many.
Another Redditor stepped forward to state that he/she worked at JC’s Bar and regularly interacted with Richard Allen and his wife, Kathy. Kathy was described as happy and bubbly. Richard was described as reserved. The worker described an agitated Richard that was upset over a loss in a pool game and went on to physically threaten and intimidate his wife. He saw the monster under the veil.
The monster under the surface will always reveal himself. The more time someone spends with a serial killer the more the underbelly is seen. While he may appear reserved and cool on the surface, those in close contact can experience an intimidating, controlling, violent psychopath.
Any person who can commit such a brutal act of murder, who can callously stage bodies, who leaves his ‘signatures’ at the scene…this person is going to display controlling and violent behavior.
A serial killer can often control his emotion and put on that external valor of reserve in an effort to hide the inner demon. Eventually the inner demon must show himself. This is why we typically see a period of rage and then a cooling off period before another episode of rage and another cooling off period. This cycle will usually continue until the killer’s death, arrest or of he becomes physically unable to commit such an act.
All the signs were there. Richard was an alcoholic, he was institutionalized for a period of time, he had allegedly shown violent tendencies, he resembled the sketches, he drastically changed his look after the homicides and he lived just over a mile from the crime scene. According to some locals, the Allen family were regular visitors at the Monon High Bridge. Yet it appears Allen remained under the radar.
The Allen home was literally at the end of a creek and trail that branches away from the scene of the murders, located in a triangle that actually points toward the crime scene! He could have walked from the crime scene to his home virtually undetected in minutes. A route often discussed by sleuthers.
We can only speculate how investigators were tipped off to Richard Allen. Local rumors vary from his alleged ties to child pornographer Kegan Kline to the recent search of the Wabash river to rumors that his own wife became suspicious and turned him in. An anonymous Redditor claimed that Delphi police had responded to eight calls of domestic violence at the Allen household. Only time will unveil the truth.
What is known is that investigators did search the Allen property in the days before the arrest. A neighbor told local FOX59 that investigators dug out the backyard fire pit at the Allen home.
What were investigators searching for in the fire pit? Could it be the infamous blue jacket, brown fanny pack and blue jeans? It’s rather common for a murderer to burn bloody clothing. If the clothes were burned, the buttons, zipper and fasteners may remain. The killer of Abby and Libby allegedly took items from the girls. It’s possible the items were tossed into a fire pit. Did this search lead to the arrest?
Investigators will certainly attempt to connect Allen to other crimes. They will interview family, coworkers and friends. They will search his devices, vehicles and home extensively. They will trace his travel history and prior addresses. They will enter his DNA into CODIS and ViCap. It’s possible that victims or witnesses may recognize Allen and come forward.
Allen has exhibited the behaviors of a serial killer. It would be highly unusual for a first homicide to be so heinous and include signatures. Signatures are something that a killer exhibits from habit. It’s something that is typically worked up to. Former Carroll County Prosecutor, Robert Ives, stated that there were at least three signatures displayed at the scene.
An unrelated prior search warrant stated that the bodies were moved and staged. It mentioned that items were taken from one or both victims. These are hallmarks of an experienced killer.
Abby and Libby were abducted around 2:40pm and allegedly murdered around 3pm in the afternoon. The killer was seen by several witnesses prior to the homicide. Several hikers were in close proximity. It’s unusual for someone to take control of and murder two people in broad daylight in an area in which they could easily be detected. This is someone who was controlled and deliberate.
The aftermath. Allen behaved like a serial killer after the homicides. He is a chameleon. Based on photos taken from his wife’s social media page, his appearance drastically changed. It’s alleged he stopped drinking alcohol and spent time in a mental institution although no date has been confirmed.
Did Allen show remorse after the homicides? For nearly six years he stood and worked within feet of the suspect sketch. A sketch of himself. He posed for a photo in front of that same sketch. He processed photos for his victim’s funeral. It’s likely that he interacted with the families and law enforcement regularly. At any time he could have stepped forward out of remorse and turned himself in. He didn’t.
Did he show remorse when Libby’s Aunt stood before him, presenting photos of her recently murdered niece, her heart broken? Or did he instead stand there and remember how those girls looked, like dolls covered in blood, horrifically murdered by his own hands! I won’t believe a glimmer of that crime scene didn’t flash through his mind. The mind of a cold, callous murderer.
Richard Allen is presumed innocent until convicted in a court of law.
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Truth Tellers 
Woo-Hoo!!! The day I wasn’t sure would ever arrive has come! Super busy at work this week so can’t write much. But based on what I’ve heard about this guy he fits so many points of my profile.
My gut instinct was that this was a man of his age at the time (45), local who was very familiar with the bridge and surrounding wood lots, light smoker, likely with a family (I suspected younger age daughters like my 1st POI IB).
This guy hits those marks perfectly. I’m super interested in knowing if he was deer Hunter (large % of men in that are are).
I had assumed he might be more of a loner (with APD anti-social personality disorder). If he was social (this guy was apparently) then the APD can be coupled with NPD (narcissistic personality disorder) which gets them by in public and can even make them seem charming. Similar to SK’s as TT is pointing out like Bundy, BTK and so many others. They like to be alone, generally don’t like people but cover that up by compensating and thinking they are special (this guys perfectionism about his pool game is interesting).
Anyway, we will learn more about this freak as time goes on. Still, the way LE has kept this case secretive, I cannot believe it will ever go to trial, they will get a plea out of him.
If the rumor I’ve seen is true that this man self identified to LE in the weeks after the murder that he had been at the woodlot (source says he went to them to let them know so they wouldn’t think it was him!) then I have serious questions about how this case was pursued.
I put myself in Tobe’s shoes and think… “well it couldn’t be Richard, after all, he came by and told us he took a walk on his day off just to let us know”, and he’s our upstanding pharmacy technician.
THAT would be exactly why I always felt they needed fresh eyes on the case, perhaps going back and re-interviewing all the men they had previously.
If that is true I will have some serious questions why this man wasn’t arrested within the 1st year. I (and the public) personally lost hundreds of hours thinking about this case.
Still, I am thrilled this man has been caught. Now let’s hope that LE comes a bit more clean (I.e. transparent) about this case so that the public can learn what happened in this case.
If it does go to trial TT, I’d be happy to buy you dinner in Delphi! 👍😀
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Hello Midwestern! I wondered if you had heard the news!!! We knew this day would come but it sure took a while!!
I just read that their local news reported that he did in fact report to the police and identified himself as a witness! Now I do not know if he claimed the saw BG but the word ‘witness’ was used.
Witness is more than just someone on the train that day. If so, which witness account did he give? Did he mislead the investigation? Did he contribute to the sketch?? I cannot wait to find out.
If he had not come forward as a witness then I would understand why investigators didn’t pursue him. However…if he stepped up as a witness then they should have gotten fingerprints, DNA, etc.
As a witness did he excuse away the cigarette butts he discarded? Did he claim that he was walking and had a blue jacket on? Was he the man in black???
I think he may have been the man in black. From what I understand, that was the last witness to come forward. He couldn’t have been able to explain away wearing that blue jacket.
I don’t know but I plan on writing about this!!!
The initial accounts of someone witnessing the hitchhiker and the black duffel bag really got me. Then they launched that nationwide search and hundreds of billboards. They must have thought the same thing initially. Then switched direction.
Only after they switched direction did I try and wrap my head around it being someone local. I had no idea who. There were a couple of locals I thought looked like the sketch.
About the only thing I was right about, as of now, was that he was a name no one had ever heard mentioned. No one that was ever a sleuther’s POI. I always knew the missing piece was some guy we had never heard of. And here he was…literally standing next to a poster of himself every day!!! Even the local PD knew him. Leazenby was familiar with him.
But isn’t that the guy it almost always is? How was he missed?? I sure don’t know. You and I wouldn’t have come across him but the locals sure overlooked him.
I’ve heard they are concerned about his attorney stating that he cannot get a fair trial in Carroll County.
They sealed the probability cause which doesn’t surprise me. My guess is that someone close to him turned him in and they don’t want that to be known.
And yes on dinner! I’ll buy the wine ☺️
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I use to go to CVS FOR MY meds and things BUT I called about my meds because they were short and he was rude and hung up on me
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Richard Allen was rude to you? If so, I’m not surprised. Those are the cracks. He had that calm demeanor but he’s sizzling under the surface.
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Hi TruthTellers,
It’s been a while, since I’ve visited. I hope you are well. I was definitely wrong in my suspicions. I really thought BG was a transient, who may have been temporarily tenting up or living in the woods in the area. I knew Ron Logan had problems in the past with people trespassing, going in his barn and/or sheds on the property. I am so glad an arrest has been made and looking forward to learning more about the truth of what really happened that fateful day. Hopefully, justice is coming soon! I will be checking in from time to time. Thanks so much for keeping this site going & keeping the faith!! : )
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Hello! So glad we all have reason to be back!! What amazing news!
I always thought BG was a drifter. I really did. Every time I see a panhandler I wondered if that’s him. I just thought he could be anywhere.
Now to find out that he was there the entire time! Right there under their noses. He was someone only a local could identify.
I’m now trying to understand how this guy said he was a witness that day and wasn’t under extreme scrutiny!
Thank you for being here with me! The fight isn’t over yet!! So glad the trial is in March!!!
When things taper down I will be writing about Brittany Phillips. Her case has been on my mind for a long time! The system failed her. Hoping to bring some attention to the case.
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Very good article. Crimes like these take time to solve. In small communities, people don’t want to point fingers at their neighbors. But it’s often the friends and neighbors who are the very ones who are the most evil. The police usually know who the bad guys are but can’t go around harassing people without proof. Even when they do have proof, they don’t have to tell us. So these people manage to live under the radar, sometimes for decades. Just look at BTK.
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Thank you! Yes, I agree. It felt that way from the beginning. Locals didn’t want outsiders poking around. Which I understand. A lot of locals received some severe and something unwarranted scrutiny.
And then, as I expected, we had someone completely unexpected pop up. A no name average Joe.
Very true in that most cases are ‘solved’ in that investigators know who the killer is but don’t have enough for prosecution and they have to wait for those dots to connect.
When choosing cases to write about I try to choose cases in which investigators truly have no idea. Cases that involve a stranger as they are the most difficult to solve. My special interest in cases that involve a serial killer.
I knew this Delphi case was a stranger and someone who had very likely committed other homicides. I do hope every avenue is pursued in identifying prior victims.
I bet the family, friends and neighbors of BTK were really shocked!! Just your average Joe that blends into the community.
Think about how many more there are out there!!
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Perhaps not exactly a stranger, Richard had likely seen all kids in town when they picked up stuff at the pharmacy or in CVS.
However, I never thought this was targeted. I think this guy had some sort of mental break that day. Likely knew wife was at work and took day off to go hunting for a girl/ person to sexually assault at a place he knew well.
Just like Ken Mains & John Kelly profiler told us he was likely jacked up on stimulants. He lost his judgement and control when he attacked two victims. Remembering the 16yo who Douglas said saw him near the entrance said that BG appeared scary & unsettling to her.
I think he lost control like a violent rocket ready for take-off. Doesn’t surprise me a bit that he ended up in Re-hab a few weeks later.
What surprises me greatly (if true) would be if his wife never suspected him. 👎👎Not casting stones at her because she may
be somewhat of a victim also, however, this guys body type and voice (there are recording comparisons on Facebook already) are an EXACT match.
Based on those 2 items, in addition to the location of their residence she should have known IMO. Perhaps she was too close…. I cannot judge exactly. LE says the investigation is still ongoing….
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Can you imagine the kids he knew and the photos he probably saw? They can look through anyones photos when they are being processed. Even the ones sent out apparently.
What do you think about him telling police he was a witness in the days after the murders? Why didn’t they focus on him more?
I never thought it was targeted and never thought it was part of a catfish. Now I do wonder if it was related to the Kegan Kline case. I’m just 50/50 on it. Part of me thinks it could be and part of me thinks someone turned him in, maybe the wife.
But if it is related to the Kline case then it also makes sense why the probable cause was sealed. They will not want any child porn co-conspirators deleting files or going on the run.
Regardless of all that, I do also think he was in a rage that day. Not sure what set him off. Just like how the worker at JC’s stated that he became agitated and threatened his wife after he lost a pool tournament! Clearly he is an angry and out of control man.
If you look at the photos of him prior to the homicides he looks different. Maybe as if he was on something. Then in 2018 he still looked creepy but he was clean cut and looked like a different person. Now in 2022 he looks different again.
I’m not surprised by the rehab either but was it a rehab or institution? His coworker referred to it as an institution.
He told police he was a witness. Was he the guy under the bridge arguing with the female, his wife? Was he the guy in black? I don’t know which witness he was.
I flip flop on the wife. She had to have known he claimed to be a witness that day. She knows he has that blue jacket. She knows he has that brown whatever. She knows that guy on the bridge looks like him. Did he make excuses? Was she just an aloof person and didn’t get it? Or did she know and was too scared to come forward? I do not think she just didn’t care and looked the other way. It’s easy to say she should have turned him in. Likely if she did know then she knew what he was capable of.
The bigger questions, why didn’t investigators know?
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TT, all great questions… just like in the early days rumors are flying. Some saying some years ago he lived in a house in Peru ~2blks from Kline & knew him, that he used an “EmilyAnn” (RA’s daughters name?) alias & e-mail and had the pw for and control of Anthony Shots account.
Others saying that the wife began to suspect and found some evidence in house, shared her suspicions with a close family friend (or his mother) and that 3rd person subsequently turned him in.
All these sources say they have insider information. I literally have no idea what is true.
My take on the Monday presser… DA didn’t strike me (his speech & facial mannerisms) as if they are expecting ANY more arrests or that this is connected to Kline. I think they are just looking for more tips on whether he had alibi accomplice/cover up, things that might affect reward, General pedoporn criminal cleanup etc.
I’m not expecting any more credible info until the January Pre-trial? But you know MUCH more about criminal procedures than me so interested in that aspect. I doubt iSP wants this case to ever see a public trial. Although I am incredibly thankful they have solved this and arrested Richard Allen, it does seem weird that he outsmarted them for 5.5 yrs. Apparently RA’s brother had been a policeman at one time (stated rumor again).
And after presenting himself to them as being on the trail that day… then it seems his wife would NOT have needed to provide him an alibi as he had already ascertained he was there simply taking a walk?
Yes, I’d like to know much more! However, mental illness as a defense doesn’t seem possible as this was a fairly high functioning member of Delphi society.
The thing that creeps me out is this. If the Patty’s used this CVS, seems they did, then Libby as a bright self-aware girl might have known that she’d seen him somewhere before as he was conducting crime. Maybe that feeling that she’d seen him somewhat made her feel more safe, confused, who knows?
I highly doubt this was targeted, but I can imagine how I would have felt at 13-14 yo having an attacker that I knew I’d seen somewhere before around town … just couldn’t place him. Not that it matters, but it is sickening. 🤢
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So so many rumors!! I have seen so so many ‘insiders’. I look at it all and take it in but won’t believe most of it until it’s confirmed in some way.
He did live in Peru growing up. Not sure how close it was to the Kline’s. I read the comments of people who knew him back then and had been at his house to see his sister. No one that was really friends with him have commented that I’ve seen.
I need to write a blog post about the Kline’s. I just don’t know what to think. The Anthony Shots acct was the last communication with Libby on the 13th. Did you read the 194 page transcript? It’s obvious police know Kline wasn’t there that day. They believe he told someone that the girls were there. Was that person Allen?
Or is it just coincidence that the Anthony Shots acct spoke to Libby that day and asked her to meet up there? That would be some coincidence!!
As you’ve stated, another rumor was that Allen’s wife saw him looking at something. Maybe child porn? Maybe photos of the crime scene? Maybe evidence from the crime scene? And she turned him in. I find this unlikely but you never know.
I don’t believe Allen stole a tool but could be wrong.
Others say he had an old friend visit and he confessed to the friend. Also unlikely.
I don’t expect any arrests in connection with the homicide unless they charge Kline for giving Allen the info for the Shots acct or if someone else knew he did this and didn’t report it.
Joseph Fife was arrested the other day. Some behind that was related to the Kline case.
Apparently Allen is not cooperating. Being that I believe they have solid evidence and it’s such a high profile case, I think he will take a plea. They will seek the death penalty.
I hadn’t heard that he has a brother. I know he has a sister.
I was shocked to see that Allen told investigators that he was a witness. I’m rarely every critical of LE. I’m this case, those who believed him needs to be fired or they need to retire. That’s investigations 101.
As much as I believe his wife is a victim of him, I also don’t get how she doesn’t know it was him. Just the jacket alone. I do hope to hear her story sometime. She seems like a genuine nice and funny person.
He cannot successfully use the insanity plea. But he could use a defense that he was on something, under the influence of something. In Indiana that is a defense mechanism. But I don’t think it would be successful.
He won’t avoid the death penalty unless he takes a plea is my best guess.
Tara stated that she saw Allen every week! I cannot imagine. I’m sure he had seen both girls before in the store and around town. He had to have known Anna as they allegedly both hung out together at that JC’s bar. I think he knew her quite well from rumor. So he had to have known Abby too. Who knows what he said to them!
Maybe he was trying to sexually assault them and then realized they knew him. But with the extent of injuries and the the rage involved plus the ‘signatures’, seems like there is more to this.
I don’t think it was targeted unless he did it for photos or video. I guess it depends on if he used that Anthony Shots acct.
The entire thing is just horrible. Those poor girls and having to see him and knowing what he was up to. I hope they televise his execution.
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TT, You just reminded me of another hunch I’ve always felt about BG. Having worked one summer (while in college) at a bar, his smokey, singsong voice in “DTH” always sounded like typical middle aged bar-fly to me. Having heard that Anna worked at a bar made me always wonder if BG was someone who knew her, maybe had seen her daughter come in. I posted on that a couple of times. I’ll spare us reliving our crime scene speculations now but the doll like posing with folded hands might confirm BG recognized one victim.
Someone also said on FB that Kelsie had access to Libby’s FB sometime that evening when Patty’s couldn’t locate Libby, Kelsie asked the Anthony Shots account if they had seen Libby and received answer back “No”. I doubt that rumor is true but sharing with you.
Yes, as it’s a fairly small town, if Anna had a connection to that bar where RA thought he was Pool King then she certainly knew him. I have tremendous sympathy for her if that’s the case.
I suspect RA had a massive Porn habit. IF this was targeted (I’ve never felt it was specifically targeted because I couldn’t figure out how BG would know girls were there, and also thought LE would have already discovered such a Perp) it could have been that RA fantasized about finding any of many potential victims that he could find in a vulnerable situation that day?
If it was targeted (I.e. RA knew girls would be there) then again, WHY did it take >5yrs for LE to find Richard Allen??
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I think it’s interesting to think back on speculation and compare to what is now revealed as true.
When I heard BG’s voice I assumed he was a smoker. But…I also made that strange looking (to some) modified photo of his face and saw the lit cigarette in his mouth. Otherwise, I couldn’t tell enough in his voice to able to have identified it even if I had known the person.
You appear to be correct! Anna is stated to have hung out at JC’s bar a lot. We know that Allen hung out at JC’s bar a lot. So they likely knew each other and may have even known each other well. It’s more than likely true that he knew Abby.
Agreed… It does make you wonder if he laid Abby in that way because he knew her Mother or even her. It’s also possibly the girls eventually recognized him from CVS.
It’s been confirmed that the Anthony Shots account spoke to Libby the morning of the murders at 8am. And that Kelsie did contact the Anthony Shots account on the 14th and asked about the girls. I’m unsure of the words used but the person using the acct said they hadn’t seen them.
Way back when there was the speculation that Anna knew the killer from the bar. I went back and read it the other day. It was said that she may have had a relationship with a guy and he targeted Abby after having met her through her Mother. I still don’t think Abby was targeted but I do think Anna knew Allen. How could she not? Small town. Couple bars and they seemingly all hung out at these places regularly.
I also feel for her. I’m sure she’s recalling every moment spent in his presence.
I suspect the same. Myself, along with many others, always believed there was a component in which he took photos or videos of the girls. Then maybe kept those memories for his fantasizing and likely shared them online with those who are into post-mortem photos or those who want to see the faces of scared victims. Sad that those people exist.
I don’t think he went out there to murder them. He allowed too many people to see him. He had on the blue jacket he frequently wore, allowed people to see his face and walked the trails knowing how near his home was and knowing people might know him from CVS.
Something I find fascinating is that he must have been in his predator mindset. People that knew him from CVS have said how kind he was, how helpful, just the average nice guy. The people who saw him on the trail that day described him as creepy. They were fearful. One witness allegedly said she thought she should have warned the girls about him. On the trails that day he was the monster that he truly is and people saw that.
Now what happened to get him into that state of mind? Did he have an interaction with the girls online that angered him and he wanted to murder them before they revealed who he was to the police? Had Libby uncovered the groomer behind the Anthony Shots acct? Was he there to see if they would be interested in him as himself and not the young guy in the Shots acct? Or was it unrelated and he just happened to be there that day, angry, and he saw the girls and took advantage?
I cannot believe he would be dumb enough to target them, or anyone, just 1.32 miles from his home, in his normal clothing, with his face shown, in such a public place. I cannot believe he went there with the intent to kill them. Unless his demon takes over and he loses the ability to reason.
I’m not convinced he used the Anthony Shots acct. It doesn’t appear in the transcript that anyone outside of Kline’s home used that acct.
Yes, why five plus years??? They had Kline on their radar from day one. Then Allen came forward as a witness. It’s just absurd that he wasn’t arrested just days after the homicides. But the witness accounts pointed to a hitchhiker. Did that curtail the investigation? Was it Allen that gave that information as a witness? I’m curious if his witness testimony misled investigators.
The staging of the bodies is key. Not posed but staged. And what did they find at his home??? Must have been something that had to be analyzed for DNA. It took days then they had to seek an arrest warrant. Something in the shed maybe. That’s often where they hide things.
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Do you recall a searcher finding these weird forts made from tree limbs with rabbit heads and stuff hanging from it? Could that be related to Allen? That was found in the woods towards his home.
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Yes, I remember the story about the weird animal heads hanging in the woods etc. The only piece of my profile that I’m unsure about with Kline is how much time he spent in woods. People say RA is an avid hiker and did hunt (had license).
In the same way your gut told you BG was drifter (I was on that too for a while), mine always told me he was avid outdoorsman (didn’t mind getting legs wet crossing streams etc). But I thought he’d be more a solitary guy than RA.
Regarding whether he went there with intent to kill, I have always felt certain BG did not plan to leave a victim alive.
While his primary objective was sexual assault, that could have been accomplished easily at gunpoint, no need to also bring knife. Being multiply armed (as I assume from what I’ve read & analysis I’ve heard) convinces me he intended to kill.
What we may be overlooking is that RA may truly might be mentally ill. Perhaps prone to psychotic (violent breaks) or something. Anyone stinging up animal heads in the woods would qualify IMO.
And the 15/16yo girl said BG’s demeanor was extremely unsettling (I.e. terrifying) to her. Plus, what LE has said about the violent nature of the deaths.
I’m not a Psychiatrist, but the term Psycho does come to mind… makes me wonder if that is what we are looking at with RA?
I mean, I’m literally thinking of the old black and white “Psycho” movie with Anthony Perkins. I have zero doubt that BG was in a funk that day and went there looking for a victim, taking 2 victims makes the crime seem all the more desperate.
If he was having some type of psychotic break it is doubly surprising that he eluded LE for so long… but that is what Perkins (hotel owner) did in movie Psycho also. 😲🤢
P.S. TT, that’s also what had me scared from this case, hiking in woods etc. myself.
Heck, how many times in the months after these murders did we (you, I, and so many others), look out our windows or doors during the day and think that BG might be lurking in our yard?? Bad dreams etc…
The psycho aspect was always lurking in back of my mind; what if that is really what we are looking at with RA??
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It wasn’t really my gut that told me…it was just the early reports of investigators looking for a hitchhiker, looking for the bag on the side of the highway, asking truckers, etc. I have to believe that at some point they believed it too. I just wonder how long they believed he was the hitchhiker.
I think that if Kline is involved it’s only to the extent that Kline created those fake accounts and gave the login info to another man. Or possibly he is the one that communicated to Libby but told Allen or someone else the girls would be there. I don’t think Kline was there that day.
I do believe it’s possible Allen took photos or video of the girls at the scene. He may have sold or traded those online.
I also thought more solitary. Even though it’s so common for a killer like this to blend into the community, I just didn’t think that was how he operated. And here he was out in the public every day. Right there in town.
Once he had a victim, no. He wouldn’t allow them to survive. I just don’t think he left his home that day to go there and look for a victim. But something happened and he snapped. I’m probably wrong on that. I just can’t reason someone being so bold in their own community.
For the knife…. I don’t know what’s normal for Allen. In my area, a lot of the men carry knives and guns everywhere they go. My son and his Father both keep a knife in their boots and a gun holstered on their hip. That’s legal in my state. In my state it’s normal to have both everywhere you go. But I don’t know about Indiana.
I absolutely believe he’s mentally ill. Not because of the crime but because he seems to be two totally different people at times. Just like when he threatened his wife at the bar.
I dated a guy like this once. He was as nice as can be when things are going his way. If something happened then he would just snap. He never hurt me but I believe he was abusive in a prior relationship. I did see him lose his temper with just about everyone else. Just blind mad. Thank God he didn’t drink! The couple times I did see him drink he was completely a different person.
That day on the trails it just seems that he was already in that killer hunter mode.
I’m with you! Psycho for certain. There is probably so much we don’t even know of the horrors that took place. Was he so blindly in this psychotic phase that he didn’t even care that he was near his home or wearing his own clothes or seeing people that know him? Maybe!!
I would like to know how he has so much money. He didn’t make it at Walmart or CVS. I would like to know more about his stay in the institution. What about juvenile crimes? There’s much to be learned!!
Me too. I live in the middle of a conservation area and I’m terrified to walk the trails alone. I’ve lived in fear too long. I’m so glad he’s now behind bars!!
I think you might be right about that psycho aspect. Watch the Netflix show called The Toolbox Murders.
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